Sustainable cities and cattle ranching probably aren’t the first things to come to mind when you think of Florida. However, these are just two of the many unique attractions in the Punta Gorda/Englewood Beach area. Get a sense of what “Old Florida” was like while enjoying a wonderful family vacation. Englewood Beach has been ranked a Top 10 Emerging Destination, and Punta Gorda is highly rated for its dining options. Jennifer Huber of the local Visitor and Conventions Bureau explains what makes this part of Florida special on this episode of the Main and Mulberry Podcast.
Transcript:
Anna Bell:
Hello and welcome to this episode of Main and Mulberry. I’m your host Anna Bell. And I’m so excited to have with us today, the Public Relations Manager for the Punta Gorda/Englewood Beach, Visitor and Conventions Bureau at Port Charlotte, Florida, Jennifer Huber. Jennifer, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today.
Jennifer Huber:
Well, thank you for inviting me. I’m excited to be here.
Anna Bell:
Oh, I know it. I’m excited to learn more about the area and talk with you. Are you getting cooler temperatures where you are right now? We’ve started to get some fall temperatures and it’s feeling wonderful outside.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes. It was 74 this morning. It’s about 81 right now, but you know, when that humidity drops a little bit, there’s a nice breeze.
Anna Bell:
Oh, it’s so nice. Isn’t it. And not, not that you don’t have a reason to get outside and, you know, for those of us who have not had the opportunity yet to come visit you and have a wonderful vacation, kind of tell us where Punta Gorda and Englewood Beach are located in the state of Florida. How do we get to the Charlotte Harbor?
Jennifer Huber:
Sure. Well, we are in Southwest Florida. We’re about an hour South of Sarasota. And about an hour North of Fort Myers. And about 90 minutes South of Tampa.
Anna Bell:
Ok. You’re in the Southern part of the state.
Jennifer Huber:
The Southern part of this state.
Anna Bell:
Yes. Right on the, on the Gulf, right?
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. Right in the Gulf of Mexico. And actually Charlotte Harbor itself is the second largest marine estuary in the state of Florida. And yeah, back in the 1800s, it was a big shipping port.
Anna Bell:
Interesting.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. We had the railroad coming down here and they would ship cattle out and all sorts of things, but,
Anna Bell:
Oh, wow. So it has been a port for quite some time. It sounds like. Reason to visit from way back when. I do want to take a moment, Jennifer, you know, to talk about some of the areas highest accolades because you seem to have quite a few. I mean, maybe we can start with the Charlotte Harbor aquatic preserves. It seems like a really good place to start. You know, for our listeners at home, help us understand, you know, the scope of, of shoreline that you guys have and, and how those preserves are protecting so much marine life.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. There’s over 600 miles of shoreline in Charlotte County, and most of it is protected. So when you come here, you’re not going to see the tall, high rises or developed land. A lot of it is pretty much protected with mangroves, and that leads to a great healthy marine environment, and also makes some neat kayaking and paddling trails.
Anna Bell:
Oh I bet.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. You can paddle through those mangrove tunnels, and you get to see what’s living in those tunnels, such as you might see oysters growing on the mangrove roots, or overhead you’ll see these little black things and you think they’re spiders, but they’re not. They’re little mangrove crabs.
Anna Bell:
Oh wow.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. It’s really neat. And then you can see different fish and maybe a dolphin, sometimes manatees as well.
Anna Bell:
Yes. So you’re actually, you’re really getting to see the area as it was, you know, even hundreds of years ago probably. Right?
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly. When people visit, they say that it feels like old Florida.
Anna Bell:
I love that.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes. And one of our keys is called Manasota Key.
Anna Bell:
Okay.
Jennifer Huber:
There’s no stoplights on there. Actually, most of our keys, all of the keys we don’t have stoplights out there. Cause some of the keys are only accessible by boat.
Anna Bell:
A slower way of living. Right?
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly. Definitely a slower pace. Yeah.
Anna Bell:
I love that. You said something earlier about the second largest marine estuary. I’ve also heard you’re a really good place to go sailing.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, definitely. You know, with all this water great for aquatic activities, especially sailing. Sail Magazine named us one of the top 10 places to sail in the United States, and other sailing publications have recognized us. We’ve also hosted many regattas, including the World’s International Disabilities Regatta, which is on the equivalent of the Olympics.
Anna Bell:
Wow. Oh, that’s so wonderful. Have you ever had the opportunity to sail? That’s something on my bucket list.
Jennifer Huber:
Oh, you need to do it, and Charlotte Harbor’s great. Yeah. We actually have some, some Outfitters, like a catamaran. We have a catamaran called Smoke and Roses, and they circumvented the world a couple of years ago, and they offer charters. Yeah. And they’re sweet. Catamaran holds six people and yeah, it’s just beautiful. See the dolphins at our sunset and it is nice. And then of course seeing the sail, the wind in the sails.
Anna Bell:
Talk about living. That’s the way to live. Right?
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly.
Anna Bell:
And I’ve heard if you’re a fisherman, it’s a good place to come down to and you might be the fishing capital. Right. Tell me about that.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. Definitely World-Class fishing. We are the Tarpon fishing capital of the world. If you don’t know what a Tarpon is, they can get over a hundred feet or not a hundred feet. That’d be really big. Over a hundred pounds.
Anna Bell:
A hundred pounds. That’s still really big now.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes it is. And they’re a great fighting fish, and they’re somewhat elegant too because they put up a nice fight2 and they kind of dance on top of the water when they’re on that hook there, and there they’re very challenging actually to bring in and they are protected. So there’s no harvesting of the fish. It’s catch and release depending on the size. You can’t even bring them in, but yeah, great fishing and
Anna Bell:
Wow. So bring your muscles too if you plan to come. Love that. Well, I’m hoping Jennifer, that you’ll kind of take us on a virtual tour if you will, of the area really giving us kind of a full sense of what we can expect to experience when we come to visit. So let’s talk about the different towns and communities, you know, that are so charming in your area and maybe some of the differences between the two that we’ll notice when we come to visit.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. Sure. Well, we only have one incorporated city and that’s Punta Gorda, and Punta Gorda has this great little downtown, has a walkable downtown. It’s located right on the Peace River, and there’s a nice Harbor walk along there. Perfect for walking, riding their bicycles. And if you don’t have a bicycle, we actually have free bicycles in downtown Punta Gorda.
Anna Bell:
Wow. That’s so nice.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. The volunteer organization, they came together in the early 2000s and a lot of biking enthusiasts. So they have partnered with different hotels and different downtown businesses to bring these bicycles free to the public, to use.
Anna Bell:
Wow. Really encouraging everybody to get outside. Right.
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly. And then there’s over 30, over-the-top-size murals that tell the history of Punta Gorda and Charlotte County in downtown Punta Gorda as well. So it’s nice just taking a leisurely walk. There’s a guided map. You can also use the website, or they have QR codes, so you can scan that.
Anna Bell:
That’s so nice. Yeah. I’ve heard you have a Vietnam wall memorial. Is that right?
Jennifer Huber:
Yes, we do. And it’s the Vietnam wall of Southwest Florida. It’s half the size, of the one in Washington DC. And we’re very proud to have that there. And we have complimenting that is the military heritage museum. And about a year ago they expanded into bigger space, and they have this wonderful virtual reality part where you can fly a fighter jet, or you can navigate a Naval ship, or you can simulate being floating around the International Space Station or parachuting. And it’s very interactive.
Anna Bell:
It sounds like a really good family trip.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, definitely. More of Punta Gorda speaking of attractions, there’s Muscle Car City Museum, which is a man’s collection of over a hundred muscle cars. They’re all General Motors cars, so
Anna Bell:
Wow.
Jennifer Huber:
Corvettes, and I’m not a car person, but it’s really impressive seeing all the different …
Anna Bell:
Sure. A hundred cars, that is impressive.
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly, exactly. Babcock Wilderness Adventure, or Babcock Ranch Wilderness Adventures. That’s something else. That’s getting on a converted school bus, and that’s going out into a working farm, working ranch and a swamp. So you’re going to see cattle, and you’re also gonna see alligators, lots of alligators. You might see wild hogs and turkeys, other types of birds as well, but again it’s a slice of old Florida. Ranching was very important in Florida back in the 1800s or so. And that still continues. And the cattle that they raised here actually shipped out West.
Anna Bell:
Really? That’s interesting. So, so Jennifer Babcock Ranch now in relation to Punta Gorda now, how far is that away?
Jennifer Huber:
Well, there’s two different Babcock ranches, which make, make it a little confusing. Yes. That Babcock Ranch is actually in unincorporated Punta Gorda, but from the downtown area, it’s about a 30 minute ride. So it’s not so bad, but yeah, but downtown, Oh, Punta Gorda getting back to them, they were recently named the number two best small town for dining scene by the USA Today 10 best so
Anna Bell:
What another accolade. Yeah. That’s wonderful. Not only can you enjoy the outside, you can come in and sit down and have a wonderful dinner too. So that sounds, that’s what you’re looking for on vacation.
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly. Yeah. There’s over 50 independently owned restaurants for a population of about 20,000 people. So that’s quite, it says a lot about the destination. There’s a restaurant where the chef, she beat Bobby Flay on his television show.
Anna Bell:
Ooooh. How fancy.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes. Or really love fresh seafood there’s restaurants where you can be sitting there. And the crabbers are pulling up with their, their, their catch and getting that fresh crab, and it’s going into the kitchen and out onto your, your table pretty soon.
Anna Bell:
Sounds wonderful. I know you’re getting my mouth watering right now just talking about it. Oh, I love it. Back to Babcock Ranch for a minute though. They are known for their stewardship. Right? I’ve read a little bit about Babcock Ranch, and it sounds really interesting about how, the importance that’s placed on sustainability. I’d love to talk about that for a minute.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, absolutely. So right next to the Babcock Ranch Wilderness Adventures is Babcock Ranch, the town, the community, and someday there’ll be an incorporated town, but they are powered right now by over 300,000 solar panels. And it’s been a great experience watching this community just grow, but they are all about sustainability. They have an onsite garden where the there’s some restaurants on site, and the chef will go there and he’ll harvest those vegetables to serve them in the restaurant. There’s a fitness center there, and people who are on the, like the treadmills or the bicycles, they’re generating energy. Energy that’s going back into the to the grid. Powering the community. Yeah. And then the school there is a charter school. They actually, they were at capacity the first year that they opened, which is interesting. Cause at first there weren’t many people living there, but people just want to, they, they saw the vision and the importance of the community. And so a lot of people from nearby their community, bringing their kids in, but now people are living there at Babcock Ranch and they’re working there and their children going to school there. And it’s just a fantastic environment. And you mentioned the sustainability. There’s electric boat. They’re, they’re big on paddle boarding and the hiking and the biking as well. So it’s a very special place. Yeah. Most of the land around it is, will always be preserved, which is important.
Anna Bell:
And does it have it a little downtown district?
Jennifer Huber:
It’s yeah, Founder’s Square is it’s called. Yeah. That’s the downtown area and that’s right by a lake. And there’s the restaurant Table and Tap, which has a fun name. And they actually source a lot of their ingredients, if they’re not growing it onsite, such as meat and dairy or whatever, from about a hundred mile radius, that’s keeping it local.
Anna Bell:
Very local. Oh, I love it. I love it.
Jennifer Huber:
That’s a craft beer. Yeah. Yeah.
Anna Bell:
That’s worth checking out for sure. Now, Jennifer, in Punta Gorda, can we talk about one other attraction that a lot of people might want to know about maybe the fisherman’s village?
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, sure thing. Well, remember when I said Punta Gorda was a port way back when, well, that was actually a dock originally back in 18/1900s, that’s where they would take the cattle, load them up on the docks. But now today it’s a shopping, dining, and entertainment complex, and they also have these luxury suites that they just opened this past summer, and they are above the shops, and they are just beautiful, well done.
Anna Bell:
Wonderful. Oh my goodness.
Jennifer Huber:
Tours and fishing out there. So yeah, it’s a great place to go.
Anna Bell:
What a transformation to kind of have what it’s evolved in, but what all you can still experience and see while you’re there.
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly. So it’s a must-see in Punta Gorda, one of the top attractions in the destination.
Anna Bell:
That’s awesome. I’d love to continue on to maybe Port Charlotte, if you will.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. Port Charlotte, this is kind of like the heart of the destination. This is where you’re going to find like your malls and your shops and restaurants with more familiar names to everyone. But it’s also the spring training home of the Tampa Bay Rays.
Anna Bell:
Ok, look out. Sports.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, exactly. We’ve got some pro sports going on in the spring time and February and March, but it’s also a great opportunity if you’re a Red Sox fan or a Yankees fan. It’s also a great opportunity to watch those teams play too, because they, the Rays are in what’s called the Grapefruit League teams play. They train in springtime in Florida while there’s another group of teams who practice in Arizona called the Cactus League.
Anna Bell:
Yeah. You’re teaching me something new today. Cool. Look out.
Jennifer Huber:
Pro sports. Yeah. Yeah. We have a NFL affiliate team as well.
Anna Bell:
Well, I bet, you know, you can’t beat the weather in Florida, so that’s probably another good reason to come down. You’ve got some good weather to play some sports. I love it, but it sounds like Port Charlotte is really a hub.
Jennifer Huber:
It is. Yeah. And there’s some, some development going on. So in a couple of years from now, people were going to be taking another look at Port Charlotte. So it’s very exciting to see those developments happening.
Anna Bell:
That’s wonderful. Now, Englewood Beach, you know, I can’t, we can’t not talk about going to the beach and seeing the Englewood so kind of tell us a little bit about that. I think it’s been named something here recently. Right? Top 10? I thought I read something about top 10.
Jennifer Huber:
Top, top 10 emerging destinations. And yeah. When you just never know about these things, where like, do you have the right Englewood? It cause there’s a lot of Englewood’s in the country and I didn’t know that, but, but yeah, definitely it was Englewood Beach, and it’s based on all these sorts of analytics or whatnot that TripAdvisor uses and just the search terms more and more people are looking for that. The old Florida that place, they want to go somewhere where they, there are no high rises. They want to get out to the natural beach, the uncrowded beaches. So we definitely have that in Englewood Beach and something that is pretty unique also is I think for fossilized shark’s teeth and from prehistoric sharks. Millions of years ago, the the sharks they died or whatever, they remain, yes. The teeth remain. And if you’re familiar with sharks, they do have several sets of teeth, right?
Anna Bell:
Oh my goodness. My little, my little boy would be all over that that would be fun.
Jennifer Huber:
It is well, it’s fun for adults as well. You kind of get into it once, you know what you’re looking for. You’re looking for like these little black triangles on the, on the beach and those fossilized shark’s teeth, or you can actually go out into the water, the Gulf of Mexico. And people have, what’s called a Florida snow shovel. It’s a basket on the end of a pole. And they did a dig in there and then they sift it out and find that shark’s teeth. And sometimes they find that bigger ones that like a big as your palm hand from a shark. Wow. Yeah. But if people can’t get to the beach right away, I know maybe people aren’t quite ready to travel. We do have a beach cam on our website.
Anna Bell:
That’s interesting. Oh, that’s fun. So while you still might be home, you can, you can enjoy the scenery. Right?
Jennifer Huber:
Especially the sunsets and the sunsets have been spectacular lately or
Anna Bell:
What a fun idea. Now Jennifer, I am curious though, for our listeners who might not have ever been to a real natural beach, kind of talk to us about what that’s like the sand and, and actually what we’re looking at. Kind of give us that full sense, sensory.
Jennifer Huber:
Sure. Yeah. And it’s, it’s always changing and that’s the exciting thing about it because just the, depending on the time of year, such as the summertime, that’s when the sea turtles are nesting. You might see turtle tracks going up the beach.
Anna Bell:
So what time of year did you say?
Jennifer Huber:
It’s actually happening in the summertime.
Anna Bell:
Summertime. Ok. Yeah.
Jennifer Huber:
Mid, mid, April through October. Yeah.
Anna Bell:
That would be an experience.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes it is. And I haven’t seen, I have not seen that in my 12 years being here, but I did get this finally see a turtle hatchling. Last month. So Midsummer, they do begin to start hatching. So people might see that on the beach, and depending on the currents and the waves and the storms out there, you might see some different shell piles. People, there’s a group out there that they collect seashells and they’re always looking for that bucket list shell. So you might find that, but the sand is, it is very broad to go out there so you’re going to be able to find your own place to sit down and spend a couple hours or a half a day. If you’re early riser, there’s yoga on the beach every day.
Anna Bell:
Talk about relaxing, huh?
Jennifer Huber:
Very relaxing because you’re out there and maybe doing your downward dog and you’re just listening to the waves lapping there. Maybe a seagull comes by tripping and the nice Gulf breeze, peaceful, very peaceful and relaxing and
Anna Bell:
You’re taking me away. Jennifer. You’re taking me away.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes, come on down. Come on down.
Anna Bell:
Now I do want to talk about one other area, we talked about just a little bit, Boca Grande. I would love to talk about it a little bit more. We said it was the, the Tarpon fishing capital of the world, which is huge, but it’s also a historical village, right?
Jennifer Huber:
It is a historical fishing village. And it’s just very unique, again, more of old Florida, just beautiful oversized Banyan trees. And they form a canopy just drive down there and people, yes, you can drive on that island. But a lot of people they get around by golf cart, which is fun. And there’s a lot of delicious restaurants there, galleries, and a lot of ’em I guess, familiar names, people would know some familiar names of those who have vacation there way back in the day, like the Kennedy’s John R. Kennedy, he vacationed there. And before him Teddy Roosevelt visited the destination and more recently the presidential Bushes have called Boca Grande vacation spot and many, many others have vacation there.
Anna Bell:
I think I can understand why now, after hearing from you, this slower living where you can just look out and experience so much, just kind of slower pace. That sounds like a good vacation to me.
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, definitely that slower pace and just get away from it all and just take, take time on yourself, time to reconnect with your family as well. That’s what people really enjoy. And then there’s some other islands that are only accessible by boat. And there is a car ferry that will take you out to what’s called Night Island and Don Pedro Island. And there’s an Island called Lola Gasparilla Island. And all those islands, they have vacation rental homes. And even though you’re away on an Island, they do have high speed internet. So people are finding, places telework.
Anna Bell:
There we go. You’re not totally secluded.
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly, exactly. That you do need to grab your groceries or any essentials before you get out onto the islands there, but that is, it’s just like going out to the Caribbean and again. Slower pace of life and get around by golf cart or just walking as connecting for a little while disconnecting. And you’ve just transformed to another world and you don’t need a passport, which is really exciting.
Anna Bell:
That’s awesome. Let’s talk about Punta Gorda and Englewood Beaches, annual events, you know, for a minute that’s been, this has been such a topsy-turvy year, Jennifer, you know, with the global pandemic COVID-19. Now that we’re kind of getting into the last quarter of the year, you typically do have a few big events for October and November. Can you kind of tell us a little bit more about those?
Jennifer Huber:
Well. Yes. As you mentioned, we’ve had some cancellations. Even the last week, we had some big events canceled for later on the year. We do have a Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans event coming up in November. That’s the weekend before Thanksgiving. Lee Greenwood will be coming and singing for that. And they’ll probably be some maybe visitation of the Vietnam veterans wall as you had mentioned, and this event will be taking place in Port Charlotte at the Charlotte Sports Park where the Tampa Bay Rays play. Yeah. So we’re going to be easing into the Christmas, the holiday season.
Anna Bell:
Before we know it, right?
Jennifer Huber:
Yes, exactly. I know. And that’s where we have like lighted canal cruises where the homeowners decorate their, their homes and in Punta Gorda and Punta Gorda is actually made up of a canal system, so boat tours going down there and they’ll play Christmas tunes and lots of hot chocolate.
Anna Bell:
Do you really get in the Christmas spirit being in the, with beach weather?
Jennifer Huber:
You know, I’m from up North originally where I had snow for Christmas. So coming, being down in Florida for 27 years, it was a little, little different, different, different, but adjusting to it.
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Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, exactly. And I should mention that yes, we do have that, you know, the whitish sand out on Englewood Beach and Boca Grande Gasparilla Island as well. You get into the holiday spirit without the snow or the cold.
Anna Bell:
I love to hear that. You’ve been there you said 12 years, is that right?
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah. I’ve been at the visitors Bureau 12 years, and I’ve been in Florida since 97. Yeah.
Anna Bell:
Wow. Oh that’s wonderful. Enjoyed your time since I’m sure.
Jennifer Huber:
I have. Yeah. It’s always different. Always changing and evolving and yeah,
Anna Bell:
I’d love to hear some of maybe your favorite memories, if you will, Jennifer, that you’ve, that you’ve had. Maybe some water activities or exploring. Maybe what’s the hashtag the, the VCB uses best side outside. Is that right?
Jennifer Huber:
Best side outside. Yeah, definitely. Our best side is outside, but there’s just some amazing trips and activities. We have something called riding the waves. There are two person powered catamarans, and you go on a guided trip and you have the opportunity to go out to some beaches and again, maybe see some dolphins swimming by you or, you know, they’re curious about you as you are them, and spending some time in a peaceful situation away from people out on the beaches.
Anna Bell:
That could never get old.
Jennifer Huber:
No it can’t. It can’t. We have some our kayak Outfitters offer night time trips and they, yeah, they go out at sunset. Done this by a paddle board a couple of times. They go out at sunset, and then we watched the sunset, and then there was some lights on the bottom of the boards. So that lights up the bottom. So then you spend some time maybe going to a sandbar and looking at the different sea life that’s living down there.
Anna Bell:
I’ve never heard of that, but how adventurous. So fun.
Jennifer Huber:
It is. And we also have a kayak outfitter, they have clear kayaks. So when they do that at night, that’s really exciting too. They put light inside the kayak and that illuminates the bottom. Wow. So that’s very special experience.
Anna Bell:
That’s definitely on the list when I come to visit.
Jennifer Huber:
Botanical gardens where the new butterfly house and it’s just nice being in there and
Anna Bell:
Yes, it sounds like a nice place to reconnect with nature again.
Jennifer Huber:
It is definitely yes. Our best side is outside and we say outsiders welcome.
Anna Bell:
Oh, I love that. That’s so great. So Jennifer kind of tell us about once we get in at tell us about the airport, is there something unique there that you can kind of tell us about?
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, sure thing. Well, we’re serviced by Allegiant Airlines and they service over 50 cities nonstop in the Punta Gorda airport.
Anna Bell:
So maybe one of our listeners cities could be, yes.
Jennifer Huber:
Exactly. Yeah. They service a lot of Southeast cities and a lot of mid, Midwest as well. So they could probably find a nice flight, nonstop flight in the Pythagorean for it.
Anna Bell:
Can’t beat that, can you?
Jennifer Huber:
No you can’t.
Anna Bell:
As we kind of wrap things up, Jennifer, you know, you’ve been such a wonderful tour guide for all of us and for all of our listeners. And it sounds like just such a wonderful family vacation we can experience when we come to Punta Gorda and the Englewood Beach. Where can our listeners go though, to learn a little bit more information on maybe where to stay or where some kid favorite activities might be, to really kind of map out their upcoming trip to Punta Gorda and the Charlotte Harbor Gulf Coast?
Jennifer Huber:
Yeah, sure. Our website is pureflorida.com. That’s P U R E florida.com. And our hashtag is hashtag best site outside.
Anna Bell:
Make sure to use that when you take all those beautiful pictures, right?
Jennifer Huber:
Yes. We want to see him see them and share it with everyone else.
Anna Bell:
I love it. Well, Jennifer, we sincerely appreciate your time and your insight today. It’s been a pleasure. I can’t wait now to plan my next trip to come down and enjoy the sun and all the wonderful things that we’ve talked about today with you very soon hopefully.
Jennifer Huber:
Yes. I hope so too. And we look forward to welcoming all your listeners as well.
Anna Bell:
Awesome. All right guys, thank you so much for your time. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Main and Mulberry. Until next time I’m Anna Bell.